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 Post subject: Re: Gretchen C Fired by Fox, filed sexual harassment suit
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:02 pm 
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Yeah, when this happened because of the type of person I believe Gretchen to be I want to say i'm inclined to believe her but the more I hear from other people I like or believe in on the air like Kiran was or like some things Judge Jeanine has said I don't really know anymore. Noone in the room but them probably really knows. I just hope it ends the best it can.


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Ailes can just say the ratings sucked


how would that hold up in court if her show was #1 in its time slot?


http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/ratings- ... ase/298048


the article says her ratings were up 22% over a year ago and the show was consistently #1 in its time slot.
it got beat once by CNN in the 25-54 demo by 4000 viewers, which is nothing.

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That increases my respect for Kiran immensely, especially considering the circumstances on how she left Fox
If anyone could have an ax to grind against Ailes, it would be her
Thanks for posting this, Malone :Kool


Yeah really especially Alies is the reason (well one of the reasons why at least) why Gretchen was picked to host Fox and Friends and I think some of us think Kiran should have gotten the job. Is anyone here that also was a member of the News ladies board that were ran by Sabrina? Also her husband at the time also left Fox News because the drama ensure after leave Fox News/being hired by CNN. I wonder if Alies regrets that decision now.


I was a member of RC (Reporter Caps)
So was Malone

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Ailes can just say the ratings sucked


how would that hold up in court if her show was #1 in its time slot?


http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/ratings- ... ase/298048


the article says her ratings were up 22% over a year ago and the show was consistently #1 in its time slot.
it got beat once by CNN in the 25-54 demo by 4000 viewers, which is nothing.


The article says it was the worst performing Fox daytime show and ratings were slipping
Ailes can interpret them any way he wants
Just saying ratings is not a good argument

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Kiran Chetry posted the following on her facebook page last night (Still a class act lady!)

interesting letter and she makes some obvious points (of COURSE false accusations on either side are bad) but sorry, I'm not buying that her departure at FNC was the fault of "middle men."
Ailes is very powerful; if he really wanted her there, he could've overruled almost anyone except maybe Murdoch and made that call.

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Kiran Chetry posted the following on her facebook page last night (Still a class act lady!)

interesting letter and she makes some obvious points (of COURSE false accusations on either side are bad) but sorry, I'm not buying that her departure at FNC was the fault of "middle men."
Ailes is very powerful; if he really wanted her there, he could've overruled almost anyone except maybe Murdoch and made that call.


I think the middle man she was referring to was her agent, who pushed the issue and wanted Fox to fire Gretchen

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FTV Live published some thank you notes from Gretchen to Ailes
All written after the meeting when he allegedly said he wants to sleep with her:

http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2016 ... r-ailes?dg

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that is a bad look for Carlson.
why'd she praise him in her book?
and why'd she stay so long if it was so awful?
that's why I think she has to have more evidence than we've seen/heard.

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hanley wrote:
that is a bad look for Carlson.
why'd she praise him in her book?
and why'd she stay so long if it was so awful?
that's why I think she has to have more evidence than we've seen/heard.


Yeah it seems retaliatory.


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sparty wrote:
FTV Live published some thank you notes from Gretchen to Ailes
All written after the meeting when he allegedly said he wants to sleep with her:

http://www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2016 ... r-ailes?dg


Thanks for the link, Sparty.

Gretchen was obviously aggressive in her pursuit for more air time (nothing wrong with that). Doesn't quite jibe with how she makes Ailes out to be (you'd think she'd quietly finish out her contract and leave, if anything) but who knows.

In any event, Ailes probably thought - "Glad I keep all the correspondence from my on-air talent."


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that is a bad look for Carlson.
why'd she praise him in her book?
and why'd she stay so long if it was so awful?
that's why I think she has to have more evidence than we've seen/heard.


Yeah it seems retaliatory.


It does, but if the story is true about the other women who worked at Fox coming forward and backing Carlson's version of what it's like working at the network and for Roger Ailes, then she will have a good case.


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sparty wrote:
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Kiran Chetry posted the following on her facebook page last night (Still a class act lady!)

interesting letter and she makes some obvious points (of COURSE false accusations on either side are bad) but sorry, I'm not buying that her departure at FNC was the fault of "middle men."
Ailes is very powerful; if he really wanted her there, he could've overruled almost anyone except maybe Murdoch and made that call.


I think the middle man she was referring to was her agent, who pushed the issue and wanted Fox to fire Gretchen


Well regardless what happened with Kiran's exit at Fox News, she's not bitter at Alies for that otherwise she would have roasted Alies' a$$ or not said anything.


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We are never going to know what really happened. This will be settled and sealed out of court and both sides will sign nondisclosure agreements and it will be history. Since there is no monetary request being made there is no need for it to go to court. Only Gretchen and Ailes know what transpired in that meeting(s).


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Fox apparently has proof that Ailes wasn't trying to sabotage her. He wrote a letter to Bill Shine to give her another shot and to promote her show more post the September meeting. I hope Gretchen has a lot of proof or she might have a tough time beating the Fox machine.
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/exclusi ... ger-ailes/


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Fox now says Gretchen breached her contract:

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/roger-ai ... act/298374

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Bloomberg put together a compilation video of all the crap Gretchen had to put up with
As someone on another site said: "What the tape proves is Kilmeade is a doorknob." :jetserl :Kool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIyzYU3oF1g

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Bloomberg put together a compilation video of all the crap Gretchen had to put up with
As someone on another site said: "What the tape proves is Kilmeade is a doorknob." :jetserl :Kool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIyzYU3oF1g


i think kilmeade is her friend
she used to go on his radio show frequently and obviously didn't mention his name in the lawsuit lol


(where did melvin's posts go? :jetserl )


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Six women tell Gabriel Sherman Roger Ailes does a frighteningly good impersonation of Bill Cosby:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... sment.html

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Six women tell Gabriel Sherman Roger Ailes does a frighteningly good impersonation of Bill Cosby:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... sment.html

Yep. Stick a fork in him because like Cosby, Ailes is done. If Rupert saw fit to resign after the News of the World mess, do you think he or his children that are running Fox News will let Ailes stick around? Ailes' lawyers are following the standard playbook most recently seen from Cosby's lawyers: deny, deny, deny, but sooner or later his own sh*t is going to stick to him and the halls of FNC are going to have such a stench that Ailes will be gone. "The controversy around my alleged behavior, none of which is true, is distracting from the mission of Fox News Channel so I am resigning for the good of the company. I am proud of what FNC has become under my leadershiip, blah, blah, blah..."


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I will respectfully disagree, brainiac, although what you said makes sense.
Cosby never admitted it, neither will Ailes.
these guys have too much ego and love the limelight too much to give up, IMO.

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